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Bringing Nazi Back 5/11

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Enrico: Of course, the Nazis didn’t count on Hellsing having the most expert vampire hunters.

Nor had they realized that Hellsing was using a vampire of its own.

Basically what I’m saying is, Hellsing was no better than the Nazis.

Yumiko: Godwin’s Law, Father Maxwell.

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Starcat5 on Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:59 pm

SOMEONE doesn’t remember their cartoon lore. That one guy that took over from Cobra Commander was created using the genetic code of several of Earth’s most evil historical military leaders, including Vlad the Impaler. In short, that dude was Alucard’s bastard son. 😈

BigKwell on Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:14 pm

Jeeves again. Interesting.

And by the way, Maxwell… Hellsing is NOTHING like the Nazis, so there! 😉

RedMattis on Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:19 am

Hm, interesting thing about what Maxwell says is that Hellsing actually isn’t much better than the Nazi regime. Integra is using a soul-eating monstrosity who has eaten the souls of tens of thousands of people (some even suggest hundreds) as a weapon, and in the London battle she actually let him go out and eat all the Souls in London.

Now I don’t know if Hellsing Canon has got an afterlife, but Alucard eating (and later internally killing off!) hordes of souls of mostly innocent people is just as bad as death-camps. …only less discriminating.

Ladies and Gentlemen, there you have it, Godwin’s Law.

BigKwell on Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:16 pm

There is something I forgot to ask… what the heck IS Godwin’s Law anyway? 😕

Starcat5 on Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:35 pm

I forget the details, but the practical upshot is that if your argument brings up the subject of Hitler or Nazis, you automatically lose the argument.

…anyone out there remember the exact details?

Romanticide on Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:09 pm

Is actually that, and the longer a discusion goes the more probabilities of somebody comparing the others to nazis. That and making ad- hominen arguments are signs that you have nothing trascendent to say anymore.

RedMattis on Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:20 am

Tsh. and people ask me why I don’t feel any sympathy for Alucard and Integra.

Brynnie-chan on Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:18 am

Hm. I’m just gonna sift my fingers through the sand of ideas here or a second and see if I can’t find some differences between Hellsing and the Nazis… and some similarities, to be fair. By the way, if it feels like I’m being too rough on the organization as a whole, just replace “Hellsing” with “Alucard”.

Similarities:

* Hellsing kills vampires – and anyone who impedes their mission – to make the world a better place for the rest of us. the Nazis killed those they believed made society imperfect to make a better world.
* Alucard gathers followers – willingly or otherwise – to help him when things are too tough for one person to handle. Hitler did the same thing with the Nazis – some were recruited, some were forced into it.
* Although she’s been shown to have moral qualms with it, Integra will not change the orders she gives Alucard just so she can protect humans. Anyone who stops them, alive or undead, is fair game. Same deal with the Nazis.

Differences:

* Hellsing isn’t aiming for world domination – they just want to rid the world of monsters.
* Integra was forced to use Alucard to attack her uncle; Hitler was not forced to attack Poland.
* Alucard (the closest comparison to Hitler in Hellsing) doesn’t want his species to take over the world; in fact, he knows exactly how stupid that idea is. All he wants is a distraction, or better yet, his own death.
* I’m not entirely sure how Hitler was about keeping his subordinates alive, but somehow I can’t imagine him or any other Nazi doing for their comrade what integra did for Seras in Volume 1.

As a final note, if you ask me, Iscariot is much more similar to the Nazis than Hellsing. Just an observation.

RedMattis on Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:31 am

I believe you’re right there, though the individuals (humans) in London would probably be better of with Iscariot wining, so that makes them the lesser of two evils in the story.
If Iscariot had nukes they probably wouldn’t have any qualms about putting them to use though, and that would have put them a lot closer to Hellsing in terms of willingness and ability to do evil to reach their goals. …still, nukes don’t eat peoples’ souls, London’s people would still probably be better of if the military stopped hesitating and blew London into oblivion. Even if just spiritually so.

Still, Iscariot is probably more similar to te Nazis, only they would likely try force a convert-or-die scenario instead of trying to kill a major class of people… and a bit later the United States along with pretty much the rest of Europe would likely go in there and kick Iscariot out… Iscariot fanatics go down without silver bullets, and their battle tactics doesn’t look like they would work well against modern armed forces, seeing as the people from (let’s say…) France won’t come in there with soldiers in neat rows and exchanger bullets, but rather those soldiers will sneak in using covert tactics to take ’em out.

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