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Yumie: Listen, boy, it doesn’t matter how fancy your tool is…if you don’t know how to use it.

Timothy: She has a point. I’ve never used a sword in my–

–liAAHHHH!

2 Comments

Tommygunner70 on Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:18 pm

Thats that way Timothy, Just hold the sword like that, but get a bit of distance between you’re body and the blade while keeping it like that, and of she strikes with a side slash, you will have nailed you’re first defensive parry. XD (the swordsmen in me just couldn’t resist saying that…)

One thing though…

Yumi uses a Kendo sword- they are hardwood sticks basically, and the goal in Kendo is to score a hit on you’re opponent, not killing or wounding them- but sadly, those aren’t made to fend off against real Iron swords… so if a parry- meaning a stand off in which both opponents lock weapons against each other, one in attack, one in defence- were to accure, and when it accures with enough force, the sword of Timothy will cut through the Kendo sword at the pressure point.

so i just have to wonder what will happen next.

Xuanwu on Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:22 pm

Wait…in a match between a regular sword and a wooden one, isn’t the person with the regular sword supposed to lose? Good thing Tim hasn’t indulged in the common SKU past time of slapping Anthy around. (Speaking of which, I bet Yumie lands a stray hit in 3…2…)

Tommygunner70 on Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:20 pm

Nope, the wooden Kendo sword doesn’t have a cutting surface, the one Timothy had does have a cutting surface…
now unless you are holding the actual blade, and you’re planning to lose, you are correct.

as for me, i dont care what your wielding, I fight for the win.
Ok i do ‘Throw’ a Fight from time to time, but thats only when i am helping out training new guys… but thats a training situation, not an actual match up.

You know… to become a really good swordmen, i have actually done Kendo.
seeing as Kendo focus’s on blocking, and not getting hit. it forms a extremely good base for your defense when you’re going into actual sword fighting.

Chaos Priest on Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:45 pm

Eh, I’m afraid that I don’t really know that much about the difference in styles myself. All I’ve had was a semester of fencing in a community college. It was pretty fun though. Still, I think Xuanwu has a point here. It may be a match of wood against metal, but swords don’t cut through stuff effortlessly. There would be contact, and if the metal blade is the lighter one it could come out in far worse shape by getting bent or broken, whereas the wooden one would only have a cut in it.

Of course, when you bring magic into the equation then all that goes right out the window because it’s possible that Timothy’s sword would cut through the wooden one effortlessly.

RedMattis on Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:49 pm

I’m pretty sure that Xuanwu is referring the the Anime chich├ę of the people with wooden swords always* winning.

Several non-reality based reasons for this, among them being the fact that winning with a sharp blade usually equals to shed blood, something a wooden sword rarely does in the non-realistic animes. So… it’s simply easier to equip recurring characters with more blunt weapons: for one this gives the writers more room for several non bloodshed-y ways to finish fights, and two, it makes the scene less dead serious**

Note that many magical weapons count as ‘blunt’, since their magic/chi-power/whatever does blunt damage in many cases (aka. when the writers feel that it is convenient)

*Always of course being in the less realistic animes. More serious (not necessarily realistic) animes might show their dead seriousness by having a blade wielding swordsman chopping his opponent to bits, possibly even the sword…

** When someone pulls a blunt weapon it’s fighting time. When someone pulls a sword (or other edged weapon) it might be killing time. When someone pulls a gun it’s is most likely killing time.

Reaver225 on Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:20 am

Actually, it’s usually the case that the one holding the wooden sword has enough skill to survive WHILE facing opponents with proper metal ones.

As for when guns come out, see Vash of Trigun fame for a counterexample of no-one dying (for the most part).

FelinaofL2 on Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:40 am

Man, poor Timothy. I say we blame everything on Enrico.

While the whole blunt VS sharp thing is interesting, you don’t ALWAYS need a sharp weapon or even a weapon to have a killing intent (ie Ban, Raitei [Lightning Emperor], Himiko, Emishi, Fudou, Kanou & Kaoru of GetBackers; also Cho Hakkai and Son Goku from Saiyuki; Scar from Fullmetal Alchemist and Cesia from Dragon Knights).

Tommygunner70 on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:22 am

*reads all replies*

Ok, now i’d have to admit that i am a pretty big “realism” freak my self.

ah well… screw it, I’ll just wait and see what happens in this comic then.

but for realities sake, and for the sake of sharing knowladge, there are a few things i’ll reply too…

Chaos Priest wrote:
I’m afraid that I don’t really know that much about the difference in styles myself. All I’ve had was a semester of fencing in a community college.

Replace you’re sword- and maybe you’re outfit- to that of a Kendo student/Fighter. and you have the same things, only Kendo is an Asian form of Fencing in its own way.

Chaos Priest wrote:
It may be a match of wood against metal, but swords don’t cut through stuff effortlessly.

You are right there, one little fact about swords though:

Every sword, no matter what type you use, has a Clean Cut zone. its a place along the swords edge which cuts through something the best because of the swing and the power of that swing. so depending on where the Kendo Sword will land, it is highly possible, that when the two come into contact hard enough. the Kendo type will actually brake or come out heavily damaged, so much damaged even, that another strike like that would break it.

DO note that Newer swords are stronger then old ones that have seen alot of use… call it “the instant snap Variant” if you would. Never-the-less, it would still take a extremely strong clash for it to accure.

Chaos Priest wrote:
if the metal blade is the lighter one it could come out in far worse shape by getting bent or broken, whereas the wooden one would only have a cut in it.

Knowing swords, the Kendo type is roughly the same weight as a 71 CM long Katana, which weighs in at 1450 grams.
From the glimp’s i’ve seen in the comic, I’d have to say that Timothy is wielding a 17th/18th century style English Broadsword, which weighs in at 1420 grams. so its about an even match there.

Reaver225 wrote:
As for when guns come out, see Vash of Trigun fame for a counterexample of no-one dying (for the most part).

Trigun! 1 or 2 weeks ago… watched it, Loved it ­čśë

FelinaofL2 wrote:
you don’t ALWAYS need a sharp weapon or even a weapon to have a killing intent (ie Ban, Raitei [Lightning Emperor], Himiko, Emishi, Fudou, Kanou & Kaoru of GetBackers; also Cho Hakkai and Son Goku from Saiyuki; Scar from Fullmetal Alchemist and Cesia from Dragon Knights).

Thats correct.

*shows hand*
These things are pretty blunt as well but they can also kill, if the owner knows how that is. in addition, they dont need special abilities to do so, only some skill and knowladge of where the fatal weakspots on ones body are located. XD

SailorPtah on Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:21 am

FelinaofL2 wrote:
Man, poor Timothy. I say we blame everything on Enrico.

Fair enough.

But then, of course, the question becomes: who do you blame for Enrico?

Atticusblackwolf on Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:50 pm

killer muffins and demon teacups lol random

BigKwell on Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:04 pm

Whoever abandoned Maxwell and left him at that orphanage. Anderson did a good job trying to raise the boy, but it wasn’t his fault if Maxwell turned out the way he did.

Xuanwu on Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:40 pm

RedMattis wrote:
I’m pretty sure that Xuanwu is referring the the Anime chich├ę of the people with wooden swords always* winning.

Exactly. See Utena’s first episode and the movie for instances of this. Since this is an Utena crossover, Utena-verse rules may (or may not) apply. And one of them is that the plucky young heroine with a wooden sword can disarm and defeat a seemingly more experienced and stronger opponent wielding the mighty magical blade of awesome. Saving Timmy here from this rule is the fact he’s NOT stronger or more experienced, and Yumie’s not a “plucky heroine” – more like psycho killing machine.

Arvanna on Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:54 pm

Luckily for Timothy Yumie’s not Tenchi’s grandpa from the Manga or she could beat someone with a sword or light saber with a bokken (granted it will fall apart after the fight but lasts as long as needed)

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