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And now you know how, even when the full time-travel storyline never happened, Yomiko was still able to engineer the destruction of the time machine.

While the machine exploded in winter of 1997, this Yomiko is from around January 1998. It’s currently around May ’98 in Shine time.

And to everyone who has ever wished the comic would Hurry Up And Get To The Plot, Already: Yomiko’s visit to herself can be found on this timeline, meaning it’s been in the cards for two and a half years now. So you see there is a method to my madness, after all!

Walter: Youv’e been time traveling?

Yomiko: That’s right! Have you met the I-jin H. G. Wells yet?

(1) I woke to find myself, holding a shiny new time machine.

(s) I took it and set off.

(3) Since then, I’ve been hopping from time to time…

(4) …waiting for it to wear out.

(5) Then I take the old one back to the lab where it was made…

(6) …swap it for the new one…

(7) …and take the new one to myself.

(8) Then I’ll go back to sleep!

Walter: I see.

Yomiko: Oh, good! I thought nobody but me would get it!

1 Comment

BigKwell on Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:59 pm

I can’t wait until Walter tells this version of Yomiko what’s happening! Like to see how she reacts!

Darthmiho on Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:11 pm

Xuanwu wrote:
Actually, I’m hoping for 10th Doctor this time, preferably with Captain Jack in tow. Because Jack seriously needs to show Alucard how a “sex beam” REALLY works.

Aww pity you…wait a minute…*thanks the tardis for the way doctor who time travel works*…you could have 4th and jack. It could work. They wouldn’t be showing up at the same time, or rather, Jack would be coming in from Cardif while the 4th doctor would be probably doing what 10 tends to do in cardif, filling up. Because of the nature of the time vortex, you could in theory have the 4th doctor visit the right point in time for Jack to have not met him but have him have met the 10th doctor. Basically because all the regenerations of the doctor exist within the time vortex, and since time travel in the whoverse is just a matter of going through that space to a different point the 4th doctor could show up!

You’ll appreciate this one Xuanwu, if you have Jack come to the party, you have to bring back an old 9th doctor season joke. “Where did that gun come from!?” Jack: You don’t want to know.

But I really must emphasize the need for Donny. Yes, if I remember correctly he dies at the same scene in which Yomiko sets the library on fire, but we have the old time machine and probably the tardis! Heck maybe even Jack’s old time agent watch if it’s before the 10th doctor smashed it in series 4…Donny showing up wouldn’t be hard.

Chaos Priest on Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:12 pm

Wait… now I’m even more confused then I was before. I HATE time travel complications. OK, let me see if I got this straight. In order to destroy the time machine, she followed an alternate Wells’ instructions after the universe broke. Following those instructions, Yomiko gave it to herself along with instructions on what to do. I’m a little confused as to just when she received it from herself relative to Wells’ threat, but never mind that for now. Once she had been given the time machine she used it to do a bit of sight seeing around time, somehow losing a few years in the process and made her last stop Wells’ lab. She replaced the new machine with the broken down one and it suffered spontaneous existence failure upon the next attempted use, and therefore never sent the Hellsing crew back in time. But if it never sent them back in time then the universe never would have broken, and therefore she never would have had the knowledge on how to destroy it or have been there to start the cycle. But without knowing what she was to do or being there to start the cycle the time machine would have worked, sending them all back in time and oh no, I’ve gone cross-eyed…

Mars on Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:24 am

Heh heh, thank you Willing Suspension Of Disbelief and the MST3K theme. I don’t have to go cross eyed!

SailorPtah on Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:15 am

It’s an ontological paradox – violating the rule commonly paraphrased as “there’s no such thing as a free lunch.”

Yomiko learns how to destroy the time machine when she tells herself how to do it. Where does the information originally come from, then? Who knows? That’s the “free lunch.”

However, paradoxical though it is, it’s stable – that is, nobody ever goes into the past and changes it to negate the future from which they came (unlike a Grandfather paradox) – so it all works out in the end!

Kazokuhouou on Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:47 am

This is where I pretend I know what Yomiko’s talking about and just find someone pretty to stare at.

If I was her, I’d go to various times collecting autographs from authors.

And I vote for a visit from the Fifth Doctor. And Turlough. What?

Chaos Priest on Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:41 am


Er… sorry about that. But just because there hasn’t been any traveling to the past doesn’t mean that the timeline can’t get messed up something fierce. Right now a Yomiko from the past (not to distant past, but still the past) is in what is her future, and thus knowledge could be obtained about the future which could alter it. For example, say Walter and/or Integra were to decide that it would be a good idea to question Yomiko to find out why she might think it’s a good idea to burn down the British Library. I don’t think Yomiko would take news of her doing that very well, and it might either prevent the event from happening or even be a cause of it happening, which just makes things even more complicated then they were already.

Urahara on Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:07 pm

I’m confused.

It’s not the loop that’s confusing, I understand that very well. Makes complete and total sense to me for some reason.

What’s confusing is that just yesterday, I went back and looked through Shine or Die to make sure I remembered it properly, since it was coming into play, and despite looking at the timeline page yesterday, I don’t remember the ‘timeline repair loop opens’ box. This raises the question “did Erin go back in time just for this storyline to put that box there so people would be able to see that she’s been keeping this ready for a while?”

Darthmiho on Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:29 pm

Re: type of paradox.

To act like the narrator from schlock mercenary for a second. Ah so it’s one of those paradoxes that’s supposed to exist that always make temportal physicists groan when looking through their spectrochronographs.

Also Erin, to support Xuanwu on this, can it be Jack time now pls? Now meaning this storyline of course.

Athos on Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:55 pm

I’d rather have 9th Doctor in, but I’m weird like that. I think it’s the accent.

Anyway, Yomiko’s trick with the time machines sounds a lot like what you can do with certain chests in Chrono Trigger: Grab it in one era, go back in time to grab it again.

BigKwell on Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:59 pm

I’m more partial to the ‘Tom Baker’ Doctor.

(BTW – which ‘Doctor’ is he?)

Xuanwu on Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:36 pm

I’m trying to think of which is funnier: Jack interacting with Alucard or Jack interacting with Pip. I think Pip, since Alucard is comfortable with his orientation, but Pip… XD

But I really must emphasize the need for Donny. Yes, if I remember correctly he dies at the same scene in which Yomiko sets the library on fire, but we have the old time machine and probably the tardis! Heck maybe even Jack’s old time agent watch if it’s before the 10th doctor smashed it in series 4…Donny showing up wouldn’t be hard.

No – Donny died much earlier than the library fire shown in Shine. He died in a fire that he set soon after Yomiko’s training was complete, killed by Yomiko herself (or at least we think so – his death scene has never been depicted in the novels, manga, or anime save for brief flashbacks). I think he’s still alive in 1992, assuming Yomiko is still in training.

And I think Tom Baker was the 4th.

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